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1204745543 Cabin in Holy Jim Canyon <html> <head> <title> </title> <META NAME="description" CONTENT="Rustic, recreational cabin in the wilderness! Located off of a rugged 5 mile dirt road in Holy Jim Canyon (Trabuco Canyon), this cabin is in the Cleveland National Forest and is on leased land with a 20 year use permit. Kitchen area, bathroom with shower, living room with fireplace, loft, new roof construction (done in 12/2008), 2,000 gallon water tank, propane tank, Solar panel w/ new unused battery array (about 10), Water pump (used only once cost approx $700 in 2008), Generator, Propane oven/stove, and Propane refrigerator. READY TO USE as a weekend get-away, or home away from home. Ideal for mountain bikers, fishermen, hikers, or nature lovers, this cabin is next to a seasonal stream. Hike down the road to Holy Jim Falls. Not for full-time occupancy - recreational only. Buyer must have a PRIMARY residence elsewhere in order to qualify for Forest Service special use permit. Plans possibly in place to pave and widen Orange County section of Trabuco Creek road (approx 3.5 miles of the current, 5 mile dirt road). Check with the County of Orange to be sure. Holy Jim Canyon is located off of Trabuco Creek Road, close to Rancho Santa Margarita and Lake Forest, in Orange County, CA. The road to Holy Jim Canyon consists of 5 miles of very rugged terrain. It is a dirt and gravel road with lots of rocks, water crossings, bumps, and turns. You must have a vehicle with good ground clearance to get to the cabins! These cabins are categorized as "personal property", so no bank or lender financing is available. ALL CASH PURCHASE ONLY. Cabin will be sold "as is, where is". This is a rustic, recreational cabin, so it is sold as such. If you are looking for granite countertops and stainless steel appliances, please look elsewhere! This is a woodsy, fun, getaway home with all of the quirks of a 1930s cabin. Keep it in perspective! Please - No 'Looky Loos', curiosity seekers, or low-ball offers,. We will NOT entertain casual showings. Serious interest only! Directions to Holy Jim Canyon, and other documentation can be downloaded from the DOCUMENTS tab. Frequently Asked Questions: ------------------------------------------------------- Why is the home NOT for full time occupancy? Because it is in a National Forest. You are not allowed have your primary residence in the National Forest. The forest is for vacation and recreation, that is why the cabin is a recreational, home, not a primary home. What kind of people live out in the canyon? Regular, normal, intelligent, ordinary everyday people, just like you! The cabins are all privately owned and you will often see other cabin owners out during the weekend enjoying the getaway from the stresses of the "other world" (the world outside of Holy Jim Canyon). How long have the cabins been out there? For decades. Many were originally built way before you were born. You can read some of the history here: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/resource/us_national_forest/ca/hik1_cle.htm There were originally a hundred or so. Now there are about 48 left. Does it have utilities? Just its own. It runs on propane for gas, it has a septic tank, and it has its own electricity through use of a generator. How come it does not have public utilities? Because it is in the National Forest. Does the cabin have running water? Yes, the water is stored in a very large tank on the property. They are re-filled by a water truck and the cost is comparable with regular city water costs. Would I be allowed to pump water out of the stream? The State of California claims to own the surface water while acknowledging that the Federal Government owns the land and the ground water. With that, the answer is "no" to pumping out of the stream, but you can add a well and pump water out of the ground. There is also an arrangement to provide water to the cabin tanks by truck. Most of the cabins have large tanks that provide water by gravity feed. Can I have animals on the property, like a horse? No, but you can bring your dog while you're staying there. You cannot keep horses or other farm animals there. Do you own the land? No, the cabin sits in the National Forest, so the land belongs to the Federal Government. Is there a lease on the land? Sort of. There is a National Forest usage permit. The permit is renewed every 20 years. Does the cabin have a garage? No, none of the cabins in Holy Jim or Trabuco do. Am I allowed to add a garage? No, not allowed. Nor are fences or many other additions allowed. The whole idea is to be "one with the forest" while you are recreating there. How long am I allowed to stay there? There are certain guidelines with the Forestry dept. Informally however, you may stay there all you want. You just need to have a primary residence somewhere else.. Can I rent it out? Yes, two weeks per year maximum. This is not a rental property, it is a recreational home for you and your family to enjoy as a "getaway" property. It can be legally rented to others for up to two weeks per year. Can I see the property? Only if you have been out to Holy Jim yourself, AND if you are seriously considering buying it. It is very time consuming to go out there and it is down a very tough 5 mile dirt road, so I don't entertain "loolky Loos" or people who want to see it out of curiosity. If you are familiar with the canyon and if it looks like something you might be seriously interested in, we'll make arrangements to take you out there and show you the cabin. Can I get bank financing? No,it's not a house, it's personal property, so a bank won't finance it. This is a cash-only purchase. Does the cabin need work? Yes, this cabiin needs drywall repair due to water intrusion that happened before the new roof was laid. All of the cabiins out there need work. Many were originally built in 1930 or earlier. They all need on-going TLC and that's part of the deal (and fun) with owning a rustic forest cabin. If you're looking for "turn-key", don't come out to Holy Jim. We'll go look at some condos instead. Can I get directions to Holy Jim? Yes, click on the DOCUMENTS tab and download the .pdf file. Can the Fedeal government terminate use of the land for cabins? They could, but it would be highly unlikely that they would ever do that. In the unlikely event that they would, they would have to give you the remainder of the permit time, plus 10 years. At this time, that would add up to 30 years notice! In that event, would they pay you fair value for the cabin? No, but at $49,500 you (and your relatives) could enjoy 30 years of quiet, peaceful life in the canyon! I have a lot of other questions. Write to me. I can answer many more for you. I will also put you in touch with the local forest ranger who can provide you with a lot of additional information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DRE License 01728866 "> <META http-equiv="imagetoolbar" and CONTENT="no"> <style type="text/css">  </style> </head> <body marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 bottommargin=0 topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 rightmargin=0> <table bgcolor="#B0A086" width=100% height=100% align=center cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0> <tr> <td> <table bgcolor="#B0A086" height=100% align=center cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0> <tr> <td align=center> <table width=100% height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0> <tr> <td align=center> <p class="msg"> This Website has Expired </p>   <p> </td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> 1204745543 <br> <img src="/_images/blank.gif" width=1 height=1000 border=0> <div align=center style="font-family:verdana,geneva,ms sans serif,arial; font-size:12px; font-weight:bold;">   <p> You must pass the security key to view this property website while in trial mode </div> 1204745543